Topic: Tennis Draw Challenge 2019 - Results & Discussion

Hello everybody!

The new season is kicking off on Sunday with the start of the WTA shenzhen main draw.

5 other tournaments are taking place in the asia/oceania region of the globe (Brisbane atp&wta, Doha atp, Pune atp and Auckland wts. Because of the timezone, draws may well be online already on friday evening!!

Make sure you enter your picks on saturday for shenzhen because play will start on Saturday evening US time !

Thoughts on the season to come? You all ready for a new season after a great fantasy tennis camp in December?

Let it begin!

2016: Rey Saber, Lord Vader, Supreme Jedi, Yoda Crew player of the year
2014: Lord Vader, King Droid, Naboo Champion, Yoda Crew player of the year
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Good stuff Arnie, the WTA qualies are underway in Brisbane already, bring on the new season and another tough season of competition among the Yoda Crew. smile

2018 - Princess Leia Champ
2017 - Rey Saber Champ, Padme Champ, Obi Wan R-Up, BIG 5 Career Slam, Yoda Crew Hall Of Fame 2016 - Padme Runner-Up
2015 - Obi Wan Master, King Droid, Yoda Crew POTY 2014 - Guru Race Runner-Up
2013 - Guru Race Winner (2014 Yoda Cup Guru), US Open Yoda Cup, Yoda Crew POTY 2012 - Lord Vader 2011 - Wimbledon Yoda Cup

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WOOT!

I'm ready (this time)!

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Okay, Shenzhen is on the way. Couple people did not enter their picks: Lexus, Aiur, Marco, Tom and Wimbo. Let's see if they join us for the Monday start.

about 5h left before WTA Brisbane & Auckland. About 7h for ATP Brisbane and 14h for Pune, 16h for Doha.

Participation is absolutely insane. We have more Teams than we EVER had, more than any GS. And this is just the beginning with the lower categories!

Brackets numbers are already category records. in WTA, we even beat the 1000 record with 280/470. In ATP, we already beat the 500 record with 250.

Sounds like the season is going to be a GREAT one!!

Last edited by Adunar (Dec. 30, 2018 2:57pm)

2016: Rey Saber, Lord Vader, Supreme Jedi, Yoda Crew player of the year
2014: Lord Vader, King Droid, Naboo Champion, Yoda Crew player of the year
2013: Yoda Cup Wimbledon champion, Yoda Cup Guru Runner-up
2012: Yoda Cup Wimbledon champion

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Yes...fantastic participation.

We got a lot of newbies from fantasytennisleague....which shuts down in 2019.

Hopefully we can keep them during the year.

Good luck to you all and have fun.

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Welcome back to all..!!!

Especially Milo  #Go BHP

2019 Yoda Crew Green Quarter/Quindecim Award
2019 Obi Wan Master Runner-up
2018 Lord Vader
2018 Yoda Crew Best Newcomer

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spotec wrote:

Yes...fantastic participation.

We got a lot of newbies from fantasytennisleague....which shuts down in 2019.

Hopefully we can keep them during the year.

Good luck to you all and have fun.

I've played TDC and FTL for the past 2 years and they are both great in their own way.

Most of the people coming over from FTL are hardcore players, so they will be in it for the long haul.

Also, it looks like Tisque may be finished, so you may get some players from there.

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Happy New Year everybody! TDC is clearly getting more popular. Good luck in the 2019!

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Happy New Year everyone, yes it's great that people are seeing TDC as an alternative. Hope we can keep it running if not improve it.

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2017 Obi Wan Master, Wimbledon Yoda Cup, Year End #2, Yoda Crew Player of the Year
2016 Obi Wan Master, Year End #2
2015 Lord Vader, Roland Garros Yoda Cup

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All the best for 2019 everyone...hey Bigmoose, you would be a welcome addition to the Yoda Crew this year if you are keen to join us.

All you have to do is make 50 posts before the start of the AO and you can join us on here at GSFT for the Yoda Cup wink...there will be plenty of tennis discussion on here over the next few weeks, so making 50 comments should be a breeze.

Once you hit 50 posts you will also be invited into our Jedi Masters group on TDC too...get cracking and make 50 comments by the end of the week wink haha

Let all your other tennis buddies know too. smile

2018 - Princess Leia Champ
2017 - Rey Saber Champ, Padme Champ, Obi Wan R-Up, BIG 5 Career Slam, Yoda Crew Hall Of Fame 2016 - Padme Runner-Up
2015 - Obi Wan Master, King Droid, Yoda Crew POTY 2014 - Guru Race Runner-Up
2013 - Guru Race Winner (2014 Yoda Cup Guru), US Open Yoda Cup, Yoda Crew POTY 2012 - Lord Vader 2011 - Wimbledon Yoda Cup

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On Tennisforum.com I have made 66 posts in 6 years.

So, I will be ready for AO 2024 wink

And my Shenzhen bracket already has more reds than a snooker table, so I will probably be keeping a low profile this week sad

Last edited by Bigmoose (Dec. 31, 2018 9:23pm)

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Bigmoose wrote:

On Tennisforum.com I have made 66 posts in 6 years.

So, I will be ready for AO 2024 wink

And my Shenzhen bracket already has more reds than a snooker table, so I will probably be keeping a low profile this week sad

As far as the red color is concerned you have a pretty big company on TDC. Maybe something to do with the communist China smile

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Newbie here
When can we start selecting our AO team?

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Tex wrote:

Newbie here
When can we start selecting our AO team?

I believe the draw is on 10th January, so from then on it will be ready on this site and on tennisdrawchallenge

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2017 Obi Wan Master, Wimbledon Yoda Cup, Year End #2, Yoda Crew Player of the Year
2016 Obi Wan Master, Year End #2
2015 Lord Vader, Roland Garros Yoda Cup

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I think Bigmoose's profile pic is a good start, although I wonder how well she will play this year? smile

Last edited by Snollygoster (Jan. 1, 2019 5:42pm)

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Arvis, congrats on your first round in ATP Brisbane, 100% correct picks!

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Thanks, Ol' Tenny!  I honestly don't think I would have noticed that if you hadn't pointed it out.  I'm mostly focused on what Raonic and Kei will do now that Rafa is out.

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Snollygoster wrote:

I think Bigmoose's profile pic is a good start, although I wonder how well she will play this year? smile

Judging by her performance against Jule today, I would predict that she should get back in the top 40 by the end of the year.

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Bigmoose you are on your way to 50 posts - Hope to see you soon in the Yoda Crew - Hardcore players all..!!!

2019 Yoda Crew Green Quarter/Quindecim Award
2019 Obi Wan Master Runner-up
2018 Lord Vader
2018 Yoda Crew Best Newcomer

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Ya think Andreescu's play could be motivating her?

Also, she tweeted an hour ago that she "just played 5 hours of tennis, it's 2am, and I'm lying on my living room for thinking 'I miss playing'.  Anyone wanna go have a hit rn?"

A good sign for her season if that's how she feels.

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As a Canadian I can say this...
our women are all jack rabbits - all sprint and no finish!

the five most highly ranked Cdn female players of all time all peaked at age 21 or less:  Bouchard, Bassett, Kelesi, Wozniak, and Marino...
Bouchard #5 age 20
Bassett #8 age 17
Kelesi #13 age 20
Wozniack #21 age 21
Marino #38 age 20

also there was Hy-Boulais but she didn't become a Canuck until age 23 (so she missed the trend and peaked at #28 age 27)

That said, I would LOVE it for Andreescu and Bouchard to have huge success this year!!

2017 Supreme Jedi, 2017 Lord Vader, 2017 Chivalrous Wookie, 2015 Naboo Champion, 2018 Big Fat Nothing

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With the Aus Open looming I was curious about the predictability of the eventual winner.
Since we now have a lot of great data I dove into the TDC stats.

It shows that only 3 pickers on TDC out of 569 who made 2018 USO draws correctly picked Osaka as the winner.  That's 0.53%.  However, 1.05% (6 pickers) correctly put her in the finals and 15.3% correctly picked Serena for the final.

For the other slams in 2018, 7.0% picked Kerber to win Wimbledon, 28.5% picked Halep at RG, and 12.6% picked Wozniacki for AO.  That's an average of 12.2% for each slam. in 2018.

We have 3 years of data:
Women's slams
2018 - 12.2% correct winner picks
2017 - 7.8%
2016 - 19.8%

Of these last 12 slams, in 7 of them less than 10% of pickers correctly named the winner.
2018 USO - Osaka - 0.53%
2018 Wim - Kerber - 7.0%
2017 USO - Stephens - 0.0 %
2017 Wim - Muguruza - 1.9%
2017 Fre - Ostapenko - 0.0%
2017 Fre - Muguruzua - 5.9%
2016 Aus - Kerber - 0.0%

Most of those were first time winners, but two of them were not.  And when Wozniacki and Halep won their firsts, they were above the 10% line.

Not surprisingly, Serena's 2016 Wim victory was the most predicted at 56.1%.

How did the Yoda crew measure up?
2018 - 12.2%
2017 - 10.9%
2016 - 31.3%
It appears that while we were better than the field in 2016, they had closed the gap by 2018.  Hopefully we don't fall behind in 2019!!

I also looked at how good we were at predicting the finalists.
whole site
2018 - winner - 12.2%
2018 - w as finalist - 22.1%
2018 - runnerup - 19.1%

yoda crew
2018 - winner - 12.2%
2018 - w as finalist - 21.5%
2018 - runnerup - 19.4%

So basically in all three categories the yoda crew was matched by the whole site.

Considering the 3 categories, again, the yoda crew did better than the rest of the site in 2017 and 2016

whole site (winner, w as finalist, runnerup)
2018 - 12.2%, 22.1%, 19.1%
2017 - 7.8%, 11.5%. 17.3%
2016 - 19.8%, 38.6%, 37.1%

yoda crew
2018 - 12.2%, 21.5%. 19.4%
2017 - 10.9%, 15.6%, 15.2%
2016 - 31.3%, 55.3%, 47.1%

In looking at the men, we have four years of data.
The men have definitely been more predictable than the women.
The yoda crew has consistently out-performed the field by a small margin, although we are least successful in picking the runner up.

Men
whole site (winner, w as finalist, runnerup)
2018 - 44.7%, 65.2%, 13.0%
2017 - 40.7%, 46.1%. 17.3%
2016 - 40.1%, 62.9%, 48.8%
2015 - 34.4%, 61.8%, 51.0%

yoda crew
2018 - 61.0%, 81.0%. 6.7%
2017 - 47.1%, 49.9%, 17.7%
2016 - 52.9%, 78.1%, 56.4%
2015 - 40.1%, 66.7%, 45.1%

Looking at participation in the slam tournaments by pickers.
The women's numbers have been roughly stable for the last 5 slams
# participants by slam
yr - U W F A
2018 - 569, 555, 534, 573
2017 - 569, 471, 343, 360
2016 - 288, 367, 323, 135

for the men the trend has been steadily upward
2018 - 995, 962, 937, 907
2017 - 865, 780, 575, 421
2016 - 304, 432, 376, 182
2015 - 61, 63, 46, 15

Last edited by dwightcharles (Jan. 4, 2019 10:07pm)

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Re: Tennis Draw Challenge 2019 - Results & Discussion

Fascinating Bigmoose!
How did you come to speak with her?

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oops looks like that post from Bigmoose disappeared saying he'd spoken with Andreescu the last 2 years in England...

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Re: Tennis Draw Challenge 2019 - Results & Discussion

dwightcharles wrote:

That said, I would LOVE it for Andreescu and Bouchard to have huge success this year!!

I've spoken to Bianca in England the last 2 summers and she seems like a very amicable young lady.

I too wish her every success this season smile