Topic: 2018 Aussie Open

Mens Final - Thiem vs Zverev

Womens Final - Azarenka vs Sharapova

So let it be written = So let it be done..!!!

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

Going pretty bold on the Men's. Of the two, Zverev seems more likely to me but neither guy has even made QFs at a hard court slam or SFs at a hardcourt masters. Pretty big leap

Personally for the men's, so much can change it's a fool's errand to even predict, but I'd say Djokovic. At some point he's gonna figure things out and to me, Australia  on the courts which are perfect for his game seems the most likely.

For the women, Vika seems more likely than Maria at this moment. We still haven't seen Maria get her game close to peak, it could happen on hardcourts this summer but we'll see. The game is so wide open, I wouldn't fall back on the established old guard.

Interesting that your men's prediction goes completely to the future while your women's pick falls completely back on the past, especially with the women's game so much more wide open ATM.

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

Exactly the point - 2018 mens finally opens up to new players - but womens goes back to the former champions - Serena back by Wimbledon - If Azarenka can come back to dominance this fast - Kvitova back quickly - Sharapova can come back fast too - No young women players have emerged to shut out the older champions yet..!!! Hopefully they will - Coco, Ostempenko and Konta seem to have the right attitude...

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

I just don't think the end of the Big 4 will come all that suddenly or abruptly. I could see one of those players (more likely Zverev) having their breakthrough slam in Melbourne next year but both at the same time seems unlikely. Thiem's first slam final to me seems more likely at Roland Garros.

It's not impossible by any means but I don't see it happening that way. The women's tour as currently being played is more set up for a surprise player or players to break through. I think there's more likely to have a battle of first time finalists but just my opinion.

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

After watching the big 4 the last 2 days I think you may be right..!!!

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

I honestly think Rafa will finally get his Double Career Slam in Australia next year.

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

If he gets past Muller today..!!!

Last edited by Murreee (Jul. 10, 2017 4:54pm)

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

Zverev has proven that he can't handle the big stage.  Maybe that will change.  Maybe not.
Thiem has a game that will always create more errors for him than the other top players.  We'll see whether he can find a way around that dilemma.  My guess is: no way.

Azarenka is great in Oz.  Masha will never be an athlete without doping.  She moved "like a cow on ice" on clay until she started cheating & became one of the world's best clay court players, knowing she might well be sacrificing her future health.  What a role model!

I hope Rafa wins Oz next year.  But Nole owns those courts last I checked.

Will Jelena Ostapenko be looking for her 4th consecutive slam victory in Oz?  Unlikely, but what a story that would be!

Last edited by Don (Jul. 10, 2017 3:53pm)

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

Azarenka looked average today against Halep... Nadal looks beatable off the clay - Even Murry said the old crew is getting close to the end... However I must agree with your assessment of Thiem and Zverev... I over estimated their progress here at Wimbledon... Recalculating..!!!

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

Well, Thiem never does much on grass, so I wouldn't worry too much about his result here.  Zverev, though, has shown that his youth is still a problem.  Not a big one, and his progress is still staggering, but still, I don't know if he's ready to make a Slam final in 6 months.

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

I am a fan of Murray Federer and Nadal but would like to see some new players make a run to the finals - Even more so on the womens side..!!!

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

The player with the most rapid serve of the history of the tennis will retire after 2018 Australian Open. He is the australian Sam Groth, who in the year 2012, in a tournament in South Korea, realized a service of 263 km/h, overcoming this way the previous record that belonged to Ivo Karlovic, when in a game of Davis Cup in 2011, went to 251 km/h. Groth, of 30 years old, reach a high 53 place in the ranking of singles and 24 in doubles, both in the year 2015. His better result in Grand Slam was in 2014, when he reached the semifinal of doubles at Roland Garros, playing with partner Andrey Golubev. A good player and excellent server, without doubts.

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

Since the season 2018 approaches, I propose to you, in route to the Australian Open, to do an analysis of the three tournaments that will be carried out in the ATP in the first week of the year: Doha, Pune (moved from Chennai) and Brisbane. Soon I will write my opinions about each of them, but from now I invite you to share what you hope that could happen in this first week of tournaments.

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

All the big guns will be focused on Melbourne Lexus, Delpo is probably the favourite in Auckland although Sock is the defending champ, the others will be interesting to watch, plenty of interest in how Novak starts the season. wink

2017 - Rey Saber Champ, Padme Champ, Captain Phasma Champ, Obi Wan Runner Up, BIG 5 Career Slam, Inaugural Yoda Crew Hall Of Fame Inductee, 2016 Padme Runner Up
2015 - Obi Wan Master, King Droid, Yoda Crew Player Of The Year, 2014 Yoda Cup Guru Race Runner Up
2013 - Guru Race Winner (2014 Yoda Cup Guru), US Open Yoda Cup, Yoda Crew Player Of The Year
2012 - Lord Vader, 2011 - Wimbledon Yoda Cup

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

Why is Groth retiring at 30? Injury?
I heard he is playing doubles with Hewitt in Melbourne.

2018 Roland Garros Yoda Cup
2017 Obi Wan Master, Wimbledon Yoda Cup, Year End #2, Yoda Crew Player of the Year
2016 Obi Wan Master, Year End #2
2015 Lord Vader, Roland Garros Yoda Cup 2013 Winner of Fantasy Tennis Tour

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

TennisElbow wrote:

Why is Groth retiring at 30? Injury?
I heard he is playing doubles with Hewitt in Melbourne.

No, he don´t retires for injury, apparently his problem is the motivation to keep on playing in the circuit ATP. These are some of his declarations:

"It's been something I've been thinking about since the Wimbledon. I went to Newport, a tournament I've done really well in. I 'qualified', won around and I was playing John Isner on centre court and a part of me just really didn't want to be there"

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

Groth has probably realised he would rather be doing other things in life, can be an expensive exercise if you are a journeyman on the tour.

2017 - Rey Saber Champ, Padme Champ, Captain Phasma Champ, Obi Wan Runner Up, BIG 5 Career Slam, Inaugural Yoda Crew Hall Of Fame Inductee, 2016 Padme Runner Up
2015 - Obi Wan Master, King Droid, Yoda Crew Player Of The Year, 2014 Yoda Cup Guru Race Runner Up
2013 - Guru Race Winner (2014 Yoda Cup Guru), US Open Yoda Cup, Yoda Crew Player Of The Year
2012 - Lord Vader, 2011 - Wimbledon Yoda Cup

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

Yeah I expect it can get demoralising. But he did get as high as 53. Even top 100 you are getting into the slams and that's making you a decent living compared to most people.

2018 Roland Garros Yoda Cup
2017 Obi Wan Master, Wimbledon Yoda Cup, Year End #2, Yoda Crew Player of the Year
2016 Obi Wan Master, Year End #2
2015 Lord Vader, Roland Garros Yoda Cup 2013 Winner of Fantasy Tennis Tour

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

US Open $50,000 + $16,000 for doubles if you lose first round

x 4 = $240,000 just for the slams

2018 Roland Garros Yoda Cup
2017 Obi Wan Master, Wimbledon Yoda Cup, Year End #2, Yoda Crew Player of the Year
2016 Obi Wan Master, Year End #2
2015 Lord Vader, Roland Garros Yoda Cup 2013 Winner of Fantasy Tennis Tour

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

TennisElbow wrote:

Yeah I expect it can get demoralising. But he did get as high as 53. Even top 100 you are getting into the slams and that's making you a decent living compared to most people.

Yes, but he was top 100 in 2015, in 2016 he had a 181 Year-end ranking, for what didn´t gain direct entry to Singles Main Draw of the GS of 2017, in AO he received a WC and lost in 1R, and in other GS he lost three times in 1R of qualification.
The best result this year in GS is doubles QF in AO, but we know that in doubles the money is lower than singles.

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

Thiem still isn't ready to win a 'Slam. Doesn't have enough variety in his game. Just clubbing the ball hasn't gotten it done, and still won't.

'11, '12, '17 Yoda Cup US Open Champ
'17 Golden Droid & C3PO Trophy Champ
'12 GSFT US Open Champ

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

Aiur wrote:

Thiem still isn't ready to win a 'Slam. Doesn't have enough variety in his game. Just clubbing the ball hasn't gotten it done, and still won't.

Why not? Variety is NOT necessary in the modern game today, Aiur!!!
Nadal's game proves that a forehand and legs (defense) is
more than enough to win in todays's game!!!

Thiem made semis of Roland Garros the last 2 years and has a good
chance of winning Roland Garros!!!

Last edited by sneaky (Jan. 1, 2018 3:04pm)

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

Your constant jabs at Nadal are just sad. I'm not even that big of a Rafa fan, but I at least respect the man for what he has done. Anyway, Thiem isn't Nadal. His defense and serve are weaker, he can't generate as much spin, and probably most importantly, he lacks the killer instinct.

'11, '12, '17 Yoda Cup US Open Champ
'17 Golden Droid & C3PO Trophy Champ
'12 GSFT US Open Champ

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

I wouldn't even use the names Thiem and Nadal in the same conversation.

Re: 2018 Aussie Open

Aiur wrote:

Your constant jabs at Nadal are just sad. I'm not even that big of a Rafa fan, but I at least respect the man for what he has done. Anyway, Thiem isn't Nadal. His defense and serve are weaker, he can't generate as much spin, and probably most importantly, he lacks the killer instinct.

They are NOT jabs they are keen observations nothing else, Aiur.

Thiem will very likely win Roland Garros this year or next year IMO!!!

Thiem's serve is about as good as Nadal's!!! Nadal does NOT win
matches because of his high percentage corkscrew serve/killer instinct
it is due to his superior physical strength!!!

Yes......Nadal's defense is better than NOT only Thiem's but every
player..........maybe Thiem needs to start taking better vitamins!!! LOL

Don't be naive.........Nadal will NOT win Roland Garros every year because
Thiem will win it this year or at least in the next 2 years!!!

Last edited by sneaky (Jan. 2, 2018 3:01am)